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Colin Davies
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We are not back to the bad old thirty’s not by a long shot, I would think that many of us had parents who lived through that era and told us what it was like and there is still documented evidence of what those times were like.

That said, the last three governments we have endured and are enduring, are so full of bungling incompetents that they may drag us back to that position; the rot started with John Major, and was followed by the incompetent Blair/Brown duo who almost bankrupted the country, only to be followed by Cameron/Osbourne not only trying to, but succeeding in destroying what is left of our domestic industries whilst giving what is left to countries who in some cases are rich enough to buy our steel and motor industries, and then to cap it off infrastructure project contracts being given to foreign companies in the name of competitive tendering.

Why should we worry?

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29/04/2012 09:45:04

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I was born in 1927 and remember the early 30’s very well every one in our neighbourhood were the same we had nothing worth selling. My cousin and I used to go up to Cally woods to catch rabbits and my Aunt would go up to Marsh and Baxters in Brierley Hill for six pennorth of pigs tails and make a very good stew. We used to go up the Brettels and pick the cinders from the brick ovens and use them for the fire, we had a house brick in the oven during winter which was wrapped in a cloth and taken to bed with us and in the dead of winter the ice was on the inside of the windows, you had to be tough in those days. no wonder they say that the kids of today don’t know they are born.

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29/04/2012 09:53:31

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I was born in the 30s and though i dont remember much i do know my family had nothing as most working class families were in the same boat. Into the 40s and then Wartime and rationing, still nothing.
When the 50 s came folks were finding it easier, jobs plentiful and the free National health service made things much easier. Then the 60s. everybody had jobs, we were able to afford cars and holidays ect.
So to compare the 30s to the 60s is just ridiculous.
Just think back to how you were living in the WordCup winning year. "One slice of bread and a tin of peas to feed a family" no wonder Colin took the P..s Scouse.
I was made redundant (Sacked) in 1966 , i had a one year old child and another two weks old so was a bit shocked to say the least. There was some unemployment benefit available but i went carpet fitting, self employed and apart from one year as a Postman i stayed independant until my retirement when i was just over 70.

1960s. Rock and Roll, Beatles, plenty of jobs, new suits. cars , a very good time to live. Probably the first decade that the working man was not starving since the 1900s.

Ps. In the 60s i visited the Pool on numerous occasions to see and stay with ex. service chinas and from what i saw they working class there were on a par with people from my area. they certainly were not on the Breadline.

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29/04/2012 10:51:03

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Perhaps this thread would be a place for members to relate how they found things in the 60s Not political but just their circumstances at this time.

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29/04/2012 10:56:04

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Quoting: Mike Pass

Colin, perhaps you have, in the past, overlooked your UK based, true blue colleagues� reactions to any condemnation of their party�s actions; by Scouse or anyone else for that matter!

The reason as to why we were �forbidden� from arguing about politics and religion during our service time was a more than simple one............the two subjects cause entrenchment in one�s mind from a very early age; as does cissy ball.
True argument can only proceed when both sides or parties are capable of deference during the process and decline to sit in intransigence.

This is the very core of the failure of political argument on FR. There are few Labour supporters and a host of Tory ones. Few of them are capable of reasoned debate on the subject. Simply gainsaying and mudslinging proves nothing. BOTH the Reds and the Blues have been shafting this country for at least 50 years, either by incompetence or design.

I will say one thing in Scouse�s defence this time, however. It is that I agree with his question as to why you choose to �rubbish� the thread. Had this been misplaced on General (not unlike many crossovers here!) I could understand it but it is correctly lodged and should be discussed as such.

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Mike,I have no affiliation with any UK party , of any hue, never have, and I certainly have no �true-blue� colleagues as you put it. I think all political parties, on their day, are every bit as incompetent as each other, though clearly in the case of the Blair/Brown lot they placed themselves at Olympian levels of such incompetence.

I can see that, and can acknowledge it on the basis of fact, which some people �cannot, and despite all the evidence to support that fact, will blindly blame any government which isn�t Labour.

It�s as predictable as next week having a Wednesday in the middle.

I don�t agree with you either, in that you seem to be advocating predetermined rules of engagement, and of course you know full well that I shall ignore them!

Do enjoy the chocolate!

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