Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons[/B] The shadow of the great depression of the 30’s has returned to the UK. It’s now estimated that more than 13 million families are living below the poverty line & that number is expected to increase over the next 2 years. Things have got to the state that in 2011 charities opened food banks throughout the UK & now provide free food parcels containing 3 days rations for 128,687 families in the UK that can’t afford to feed themselves, the largest increase is amongst the low paid & those who have been made redundant. It’s now common for parents to go without food so they can feed their children. This is happening in one of the worlds richest countries. How can a Government that can afford the give the richest in the land an extra 5p in the pound stand back & claim we’re all in it together.
Well Scouse here i am born in 1933 into poverty at atime when a certain mister Hitler came to power , at when being hungry was a norm, when there wwere more people who couldnt afford to feed them selves in proportion to a smaller population than we have now , as i said there wre times when we were short of food but it was also a time of sharing what we had with neighbours ,without any further ado Scouse can you tell me what is classed as poverty today , against poverty when i was born, dont forget i have seen both, and i know the difference.:blink: :blink:
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Quoting: maurice robinson[/B]
Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons[/B] The shadow of the great depression of the 30’s has returned to the UK. It’s now estimated that more than 13 million families are living below the poverty line & that number is expected to increase over the next 2 years. Things have got to the state that in 2011 charities opened food banks throughout the UK & now provide free food parcels containing 3 days rations for 128,687 families in the UK that can’t afford to feed themselves, the largest increase is amongst the low paid & those who have been made redundant. It’s now common for parents to go without food so they can feed their children. This is happening in one of the worlds richest countries. How can a Government that can afford the give the richest in the land an extra 5p in the pound stand back & claim we’re all in it together.
Well Scouse here i am born in 1933 into poverty at atime when a certain mister Hitler came to power , at when being hungry was a norm, when there wwere more people who couldnt afford to feed them selves in proportion to a smaller population than we have now , as i said there wre times when we were short of food but it was also a time of sharing what we had with neighbours ,without any further ado Scouse can you tell me what is classed as poverty today , against poverty when i was born, dont forget i have seen both, and i know the difference.[/QUOTE]
Alright Maurice, Hardship wasn’t restricted to the 1930, I remember back in 1966 I fell out of work & I had to apply for DHSS aid. They sent a lady ’round to my home who walked into our flat & promptly told us to sell our record player & as their was only two adults & we had a bed settee we must sell our easy chair & until we did this we would not get Government help. A short while later after buying food for the babies we have none for ourselves in fact on one day the only food we had in the house was one slice of bread & a tin of peas which we shared as our only meal of the day. So we all know what it’s like to go without, if you want to make a political point over it that was under a Labour Government. The difference is we aren’t living in the 30’s or the 60’s things have improved year on year as the country grew richer, that is until now when once again the poor are carrying the rich mans cross & having to go to charities to feed themselves.
Let me ask you three questions;
Do you think it’s right that in one of the worlds richest countries that people, through no fault of their own, should have to get charitable food handouts to feed their families?
Do you think it’s right when people are being forced into poverty by deliberate government policy that the richest in the land should be given, by the same Government, an extra 5p in the pound?
Do you honestly believe that "we’re all in it together"?
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We lived in a hole in the road...
Four well-dressed men sitting together at a vacation resort. Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.
Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?
Terry Gilliam: You’re right there Obediah.
Eric Idle: Who’d a thought thirty years ago we’d all be sittin’ here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
MP: Aye. In them days, we’d a’ been glad to have the price of a cup o’ tea.
GC: A cup ’ COLD tea.
EI: Without milk or sugar.
TG: OR tea!
MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.
EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn’t buy you happiness."
EI: ’E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN’. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!
MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin’ in a corridor! Woulda’ been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
GC: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!
TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
MP: Cardboard box?
TG: Aye.
MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o’clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o’clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o’clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won’t believe ya’.
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Alright Maurice, Hardship wasn’t restricted to the 1930, I remember back in 1966 I fell out of work & I had to apply for DHSS aid. They sent a lady ’round to my home who walked into our flat & promptly told us to sell our record player & as their was only two adults & we had a bed settee we must sell our easy chair & until we did this we would not get Government help. A short while later after buying food for the babies we have none for ourselves in fact on one day the only food we had in the house was one slice of bread & a tin of peas which we shared as our only meal of the day. So we all know what it’s like to go without, if you want to make a political point over it that was under a Labour Government. The difference is we aren’t living in the 30’s or the 60’s things have improved year on year as the country grew richer, that is until now when once again the poor are carrying the rich mans cross & having to go to charities to feed themselves.
Let me ask you three questions;
Do you think it’s right that in one of the worlds richest countries that people, through no fault of their own, should have to get charitable food handouts to feed their families?
Do you think it’s right when people are being forced into poverty by deliberate government policy that the richest in the land should be given, by the same Government, an extra 5p in the pound?
Scouse. I Am One Hundred Percent With Your Post I Was Born In The Gallowgate Glasgow In The Year 1939 April I Kid You Not I( Still Remember Going Down The Salvation Army Bomb Shelter . And My Mother Buying Trip (I Have Never Taken That Crap Again) And Sour Milk.?
It Was Frigging Hard Growing Up In That Time.
But I Learned Early That The Boys Brigade Don’t Pay You A Freaking Wage.
At That Age I Vowed To Make My Mark .
The Only F..ing Thing Was I Picked The Plantation Dock Where My Wife Lived.
Think About It. A Young Hairy Ar-est Boy . Coming From A Middle Class Family Dropped Into A F...Inge Vice Den In Every Way.; Guest How Long It Took Me To Be The "Man" ?
Three Month . I Had Every Thing Swed Up . (That Was Beenying A Fucking War Baby Made Me.
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Quoting: Colin Hall Four well-dressed men sitting together at a vacation resort. Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.
Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?
Terry Gilliam: You’re right there Obediah.
Eric Idle: Who’d a thought thirty years ago we’d all be sittin’ here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
MP: Aye. In them days, we’d a’ been glad to have the price of a cup o’ tea.
GC: A cup ’ COLD tea.
EI: Without milk or sugar. ect ect
Alright Colin, Yes the four Yorkshire men is a funny sketch.
Unfortunately the little story I related was sadly true & not a piece of make believe, it’ & a few other things did two things first it started me looking at society & secondly it’s one of the reasons I joined up, for nine years employment if I hadn’t I would most certainly have turned to crime to feed my family. There are thousands living in Liverpool during the sixties, seventies & eighties that will have similar tales & that explains why Liverpool is predominantly left wing. As they like to say in Yankee films "You don’t know, you weren’t there."
We as a society have supposed to have advanced since the bad old days yet here in one of the worlds richest countries where people, deliberately made poor by Government policy, are being fed by latter-day versions of the soup kitchen. The Government have stolen their jobs & cut the pay of those lucky enough to have one, they have cut the money the unemployed & pensioners have to live on, yet they have given the richest ten percent of the population a tax cut of five pence in the pound & then have the audacity to shout "we’re all in it together", that sirrah is hypocrisy of the worse kind.
I ask you the same questions I asked Maurice
Do you think it’s right that in one of the worlds richest countries that people, through no fault of their own, should have to get charitable food handouts to feed their families?
Do you think it’s right when people are being forced into poverty by deliberate government policy that the richest in the land should be given, by the same Government, an extra 5p in the pound?
Do you honestly believe that "we’re all in it together"?
I’ll add another question;
If this was a Labour Government doing all this would you be so flippant?
Take a lesson from history in time like these the people turn to extremes, The BNP & their little brothers UKIP & the Communist style parties share of the vote is going up, how long do you think before we have a Fuhrer Nick Griffin or a Comrade Robert Griffiths running the country.
