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Terry Carey
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Back to the bad old 30’s

I think my postings on this thread have shown that I am not ploughing the same furrow.  Although I still support broadly the same Party I can, do, have done and will continue to criticise them if I think it is merited.

Currently it is merited.

I will answer questions which are not loaded or in such general terms that a reply is impossible.

TC.

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Mike Pass
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Hhhmmm!!!!


Quoting: Steve  Greenwood
I am not so naive as to think that the plan I put forward was not full of holes. My intention was to provoke debate and comment and to draw into the debate people who would not normally post on political affairs.
The forums have been bereft of any decent arguments for some time and that is evident from the lack of interest shown by many people who have good ideas. These people are as fed up as I am at the constant bickering between supporters of both of the major parties who tread the same paths time after time.




Steve, I totally support that argument. It is one of the reasons that I have willingly let my posting slip of late. Why not then, campaign for fresh topics of debate/conversation, where all may voice an opinion without fear of being dragged down by party dogma??!!

Oh, bugger! Just remembered...........that is how all my threads used to be.........but all people wanted to do was expound ridiculous pov simply aimed at deriding those with diametrically opposed ones. My answer to them is to meet up somewhere central and kick the crap out of each other. Now; I would be up for some of that but quite frankly I would prefer to get back to the lighter side of FR as it used to be.
Yes, indeed, change comes but it can also be reverted. Is that not change also??!!

Damnant quod non intellegunt.
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Mike Pass
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Hhhmmm!!!!

Scouse, mah maert! If you are going to set topical questions for debate it would help greatly if they were phrased in a non confrontational or leading manner. No one wants to involve themselves in a discussion or debate where the premise has already been ’debated’ and resolved prior to it being recommended to the assembly.
No wonder you are getting your backside chewed again!!!!...................innit!

Damnant quod non intellegunt.
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Marie Drew
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At last posters are beginning to move away from espousing their own party political dogma and put forward more constructive ideas on this thread which make more interesting reading.  After all, we were told by all political parties in the run up to the last General Election that the pain was coming and now it has arrived.  However, how we get growth into the economy is a matter for debate.


Steve’s idea of boosting the housing market is one idea which could be considered and not rejected out of hand.  Movement in the housing market is often taken as an indicator of how well or how badly the economy is doing as it reflects the interdependence of business and underpins growth in the economy.  For example, when a house is purchased new products are also purchased such as carpets, curtains, lighting, garden equipment, perhaps even a new bathroom or kitchen and numerous other things; the list is endless.  In so doing, not only do these purchases create employment in their own industries but each of those industries will be serviced by many other industries and create further employment.

At the moment, the housing market is flat in most areas of the country except for London and the south east and the idea of giving a government subsidy to building and financial help to prospective purchasers, particularly first time buyers, in the purchasing of property in the private sector are possibilities to be considered.  I have indicated the private sector rather than the public sector as it is people, who buy in this sector, are the ones who are more likely to have money available to make the purchases creating more employment and thus growth in the economy to some extent.    


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John (scouse) Hirons
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Quoting: Mike Pass
Scouse, mah maert! If you are going to set topical questions for debate it would help greatly if they were phrased in a non confrontational or leading manner. No one wants to involve themselves in a discussion or debate where the premise has already been ’debated’ and resolved prior to it being recommended to the assembly.
No wonder you are getting your backside chewed again!!!!...................innit!




Alright Mike, I post this thread for two reasons, first I am genuinely disgusted at the latest government policies & secondly I wanted to generate debate, something that has been absent from FR for some time. I knew when I posted it that I would have lumps ripped off me as the site is predominantly right of center but the debate has lasted over twelve pages & that’s eleven more than of late, it may be a pyrrhic victory but it’s still a victory & like most Scousers I believe in pyrric victories.  

  I do, however, disagree with your premise that this topic has been " ’debated’ and resolved prior to it being recommended to the assembly" it hasn’t nor would it have been aired if I hadn’t instigated the process. People moan & groan about the effects of the cuts but don’t want to blame the source of them, it’s like saying bullets kill but don’t blame the gun or the man squeezing the trigger.

  You will notice that in my original post I didn’t ask for views on the party enacting the policies just the members views on the effect of the policies, that aspect was brought in by the members themselves.

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