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Patricia Davies
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needed to be done for British Vets & Service Personnel

here you go Kev, love.

Your own thread!

You can keep your topic going on here and post your thoughts whenever you like, we read them, may not always answer, if we agree but may also join in as well.
good luck love.

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Kev bywater
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More help needed for British Servicemen & Women, Veterans

Thank you  Mrs Patircia Davies,

Well fellow members Mr Tony Morland has worked very hard over the many years trying to get my father and million other British Veterans National Defence Medal.

Some will agree other won’t but its time for a new Medal review board.  The Victorian Day’s of Board Medal System is long overdue.  Yes the American system they have more medals awarded but they respect everyone. In addition, as always more help is needed for  British Forces and Veterans and their families. Those are the ones that keep on the front line and give all the sacrifices for peace.  


The Charities are brilliant   foundation which helps thousands of Veterans and families but surely some type of Veterans Tax could also help keep the defence force viable and help all who served for the United Kingdom.  Please get behind Mr Tony Morland and his fellow British Veterans

Lest We Forget & God Bless them all.
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Alright Kev, No-one can argue against more help being given to ex-service personnel but I can’t see how giving a gong for not doing anything can achieve that.

  The Americans give away medals like sweeties at a kindergarten, If a Yank is posted to the UK he gets a gong for flying the Atlantic East to West, he then gets another for serving overseas. When he is tour-ex he will get another for flying the Atlantic west to east. If a British serviceman earns his marksman he gets a cloth cross rifle badge, the Yanks get yet another medal. If a Yank has his ingrowning toenails removed in an operational theater he gets the purple heart medal. the list goes on & on & on. A Yankie soldier who has done nowt & sees nowt still ends up with a chest like a Ruritanian General, all shiney things & bog chains.

  The UK services do not play these silly pin something to my chest games. If you serve in a campaign that has an award you get a gong for that, if you serve in a theater that has no specific award you get a General Service Medal, If your actions merit a Mention in Despatches you get a small badge to put on your medals ribbon. From that point onward medals are only given for acts of valour & that’s how it should be.

  Should I get a gong for just being in the mob during the cold war (meaning no fighting type of non-war) NO. The argument that we could have been called to action doesn’t wash, if that were the case I want a VC as I could have been asked to do an extremely brave act.    

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Kev bywater
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needed to be done for British Vets & Service Personnel

Hi John,
Thanks for the reply.
The criteria for the  Purple Heart ,
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Awards/purple_heart.aspx

http://www.purpleheart.org/membereligibility.aspx

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Well how about  IRA mainland bombing campaign  & overseas terrorism John did you have a family member caught in IED  ?

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Phil Beacall
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It got my goat in the first Gulf War, where those in Cyprus were awarded the Medal, Just because they were in range of a scud! Scuds were so crap that should one have been fired at Cyprus it would have probably landed in North Africa!

I do not see how being in Cyprus should have merited the same Gong as those who crossed in to Kuwait, those that crossed into Kuwait were awarded a tiny little rosette to sew onto their Medal Ribbon to show that they were in action. Pointless.

As meritorious as Mr Moreland’s project and campaign is, the issue of Medals because you were in Uniform at any given time will lower the honour, value and credit placed on the medals worn by those that took Incoming Fire and who had to fire back and suffered deprivations because of the theaters of operations they were in.

p.s. The last issue of the Stars and Stripes (US issued Newspaper for the forces) A chef was given a Commanders Citation for............................................ Baking Cakes and Cookies for the wives and children of Deployed personnel in Kosovo! This entitled him to wear a pretty little Badge thingy on his Unit Flash!

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