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Michael Potter
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Trainees dress in army fatigues and are subject to military law while there. Waking at 5.30am they are kept busy until about 10pm with a variety of physical and mental challenges. Behind all the activities is a desire to improve self esteem and confidence, inspire motivation and self discipline, and encourage respect for oneself and others.

Trainees often arrive at the camp unmotivated and unfocused. They may have been in trouble with the law, have problems with drugs and alcohol, been in abusive relationships or simply have issues with focus and decision-making.

No two days are the same for trainees at the LSV Company, and the programme varies between classroom-based learning and outdoor physical activities such as a 50 km tramp, river crossings, rafting and marching. The LSV instructors work hard to maintain a positive environment and guest speakers come in to give advice on things like tenancy rights, dress and grooming, budgeting, employment, and drug abuse.

This scheme has been very successful I might add! [/I]


Sounds like a very good scheme Colin, but given the fuss the extreme left in this country are making abouta paltry six week trainingcourse to try and help young people into work, could you imagine the outcry if such a scheme was adopted or, even proposed,  you would also have an army of Human Rights lawyers queuing up, and a closet liberal government, which currently run this country  running scared.  

I think it would be safe to say, it would never happen.
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Michael Potter
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Michael I may seem a little doubtful of all people who have "made it",in life as achievers  and help out the youth of today to "get on in life"but  rumour has it that wonderful super-store American firm ASDA are taking work experience youngsters on for free (Dole paid only) and are reducing the hours the part-time staff are on. Coincidental or what????? Signed Mr Angry Merseyside.


I am sure Thomas that there are many succesful people, not all, who do a lot to try and help youngsters get on the career ladder, once there of course,  it is up to the individual to progress, by taking advantage of the relevent training schemes, further education etc.

On the question of Asda, if they are getting some training, and are collecting their jobs seekers, surely that is better than them sitting at home doing nothing.

The rumour you have heard regarding reducing the hours for part time staff, is it a fact, or is it something you choose to believe
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Colin Hall
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Sounds like a very good scheme Colin, but given the fuss the extreme left in this country are making abouta paltry six week trainingcourse to try and help young people into work, could you imagine the outcry if such a scheme was adopted or, even proposed,  you would also have an army of Human Rights lawyers queuing up, and a closet liberal government, which currently run this country  running scared.  

I think it would be safe to say, it would never happen.  



These ’volunteers’ are often people who have absolutely no self discipline, and for them to organise themselves to get out of bed in the morning has hitherto been beyond them. The course has been largely successful in that they get a certificate to say what they’ve achieved, and employers like the idea.

NZ is far to pragmatic to worry about why it wouldn’t work in the UK, and simply get on with doing it.
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John (scouse) Hirons
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Sounds like a very good scheme Colin, but given the fuss the extreme left in this country are making abouta paltry six week trainingcourse to try and help young people into work, could you imagine the outcry if such a scheme was adopted or, even proposed,  you would also have an army of Human Rights lawyers queuing up, and a closet liberal government, which currently run this country  running scared.  

I think it would be safe to say, it would never happen.  




Alright Micheal, I can’t believe that even you believe what you have posted. You call forcing kids to work for nothing for 30 hours a week for 8 weeks ’help’ & having their dole stopped if they refuse this ’help’ (yes the DOE now admit that that is true) if for any reason they fail to complete their 8 weeks once again their dole is stopped. They also have to pay for their own transport & any food they need. How do I know? simple my grandson, who has 3 ’A’ levels is currently on one of these schemes & he spends all day stacking shelves now that should help him find work, he would be in university except we can’t afford the £9 grand plus all the extras this government want only English students to pay.

   Most thinking people (including Tescos, Poundland & Burger king who have pulled out of the scheme when they found out how it was being run) didn’t agree with you, they think it’s slavery (if in doubt look up the word you’ll be surprised).

  There could be merits in the scheme run in KIWI a modified form of which could well work here in place of ASBO’s & community orders.

 

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If it had not been compulsory i am sure no young men would have gone any where near the Armed Forces ( Yes i know  we all were better for it and would not have missed it, but thats another scenario) So the same today,no young man is going to volunteer to be roused at 0530 and chased , shouted at and harried on a daily basis, Would you??. Whilst i don’t doubt what Colin says that it works down in N.Z. young people are the same the world over and unless it is the Law the first time something happens not to their liking they will be off.
When i was nearing call up time i had lots of friends and aquaintances all around my age and they were called up for the 3 services and i know non of them
would have gone near if there had been a choice.

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