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black versus white
Alan,
First of all I suggest you check your facts. John Terry has not run to the courts. Quite the opposite in fact since he is the subject of a prosecution by the CPS who have reviewed the evidence and feel that they can obtain a conviction.
I know someone who works in the CPS and they only bring cases they feel they can win because of the costs of prosecution. They must therefore feel that the evidence is overwhelming.
If you, and others, believe that I support John Terry whatever the truth then you have not read my post well enough to understand my position.
My point was simply that, in agreement with the original post, I do believe that the bias today in the UK is against the white population.
If Terry is guilty then he ought to be punished. If he is innocent then he ought to be acquitted.
It’s as simple as that.
TC.
As an afterthought all that was needed if Terry had said something out of order was a smack in the teeth from Anton Ferdinand in the tunnel.
As Samuel Johnson famously said ’Every man has the right to say what he thinks of his neighbour. Equally his neighbour has the right to knock him down for it if he so feels.’
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Quoting: Terry Carey Alan, If Terry is guilty then he ought to be punished. If he is innocent then he ought to be acquitted.
It’s as simple as that.
TC.
Hi TC,
I wish it was as simple as that. I worked with young adults (13 to 18) who had Social, Emotional and Behavioural Difficulties.
As part of this job we had to be Key Workers to so many of our clients. I worked with the girls. One of my colleagues who was absolutely brilliant with the girls had a complaint of a sexual nature made against him by one of his key kids. He had been Key Worker to this client for 3 years.
Protocol kicked in and the worker was suspended pending an investigation. This lasted about two weeks because of system.
The girl finally stated she had made it all up and his name was cleared, however, the stigma remained and he never returned to work with us again. He left the care sector for another job.
He was one of the nicest people I have had the honour of knowing.
If JT is found innocent a lot of the footballing fraternity will still hold him in doubt.
Alright Alan, I can sympathise & to a degree agree with some of both Terry & Maurices’ oppinons & can understand why they should see it that way. The only fly in the ointment is when you see shadows of Mccarthyism rearing it’s ugly head as shown by Michael. To the Mccarthy ultra right everything that happens or anyone who voices a different view is either Left Wing & part of the Liberal Elite or has been brainwashed by them. Michael has even, on other posts accused the current & most probably the most right wing Tory Party to gainpower as being Left Wing Liberal elite. When views like his are aired it automatically turns every thinking man against a view, that in reality, has merrits.
Sorry Michael this is not America in the late 40’s early 50’s, this is the UK in the 22nd century there will never be a House Committee on UnBritish Activities.
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As i was the one who started the "debate" black versus white, i wonder what response we would get if we called a black person who had been born in Wales TAFFY , or one born in Ireland Paddy ,as far as Scouses comments ,and his reference to the liberal elite and macarthyism where puging of communism was on the Agenda i dont think we need that to come into the equasion all we need is basic bloody common sense ,and allowus to have a bit of Banter to and fro between ourselves providing its not of a derogotary nature, if these P.C. Bigots had worked in the Construction Industry as i did for many years, most of the workforces would have been up before the Judges every monday morning, My last word on this Subject is Will Someone please give us our Country Back.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Quoting: maurice robinson
As i was the one who started the "debate" black versus white, i wonder what response we would get if we called a black person who had been born in Wales TAFFY , or one born in Ireland Paddy ,as far as Scouses comments ,and his reference to the liberal elite and macarthyism where puging of communism was on the Agenda i dont think we need that to come into the equasion all we need is basic bloody common sense ,and allowus to have a bit of Banter to and fro between ourselves providing its not of a derogotary nature, if these P.C. Bigots had worked in the Construction Industry as i did for many years, most of the workforces would have been up before the Judges every monday morning, My last word on this Subject is Will Someone please give us our Country Back.
Alright Maurice, If you read my post you will see I started it by saying I agreed with some of your & TC’s oppinons & could see the reason for your views.
The rest of my post was in reponse to Michaels post, were he, as usual, took the Mccarthy stance of blaming left wingers & liberal elite for everything. I don’t know about you but I find Mccarthyism more insidious the racism & his posts are pure Mcarthy in all it’s self deluded venom.
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How many of you remember the 1950s and 60s before the P.C. brigade started? I remember when you could go into a toyshop and buy a Golliwog for your kids . I remember when you could buy a jar of jam with a cute little golliwog on the label. I remember when it was not uncommon to see notices in guest house windows that read No blacks No Irish No dogs. Those days are far behind us but has it made our society any better? I could go on giving examples but I think you get my point. If this gets past the in-built censor I’ll be amazed!!!
