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Our Place In Europe???
Having watched the events at the lastest!!!! meeting of the EU’s heads of state, I am more than a little surprised at the lack of comment from posters.
Today I watched and listened to Nick Clegg on the Andrew Marr programme, what a total waste of good oxygen that man is, Cleggy reminded me of a chicken that had just been beheaded.
Across the Atlantic the Argies must be rubbing their hands with glee, now would be a good time to reclaim the Falklands, no aircraft carriers, limited number of aircraft, army stretched to the limit, navy in decline regards ships.
Would the Frogs lend us their carrier? Would the Belgians supply us with ammo? Would the EU nations loan or rent us cargo or troop transports?
Has call me Dave, done the right thing?
Or is this a political game the politicians love to play.
Should be interesting over the next few months.
The Eu is copying Nero, they play games by having important meetings whilst the Union goes down the pan.
Never say a humorous thing to a man who does not possess humour. He will always use it in evidence against you.
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[QUOTE]Quoting: Don Knight Having watched the events at the lastest!!!! meeting of the EU’s heads of state, I am more than a little surprised at the lack of comment from posters.
Today I watched and listened to Nick Clegg on the Andrew Marr programme, what a total waste of good oxygen that man is, Cleggy reminded me of a chicken that had just been beheaded.
Across the Atlantic the Argies must be rubbing their hands with glee, now would be a good time to reclaim the Falklands, no aircraft carriers, limited number of aircraft, army stretched to the limit, navy in decline regards ships.
Would the Frogs lend us their carrier? Would the Belgians supply us with ammo? Would the EU nations loan or rent us cargo or troop transports?
Has call me Dave, done the right thing?
Or is this a political game the politicians love to play.
Should be interesting over the next few months.
The Eu is copying Nero, they play games by having important meetings whilst the Union goes down the pan. [/QUOTE
Don. Try Nigel Farage (u.kip.) on You Tube " What gives you the right to dictate to Greece and Ireland" plus many more of his speeches to Euro Politicians. whether he is right or wrong he does say what he thinks, no pussyfooting around. Would like your opinion on his views. Regards j.d.
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Unfortunately, Don, the U.K. no longer has much political clout in Europe. This meeting was to save the Euro zone countries from going into terminal decline and, as the U.K. is not part of those who have the Euro as a currency we had little chance of getting anything like what Cameron wanted. It is purely an economic problem. The Conservatives want the U.K. out of the E.U and the Lib Dems want us to be fully integrated with the E.U. Cameron was in a No Win situation after he had pledged that the U.K. would not sign anything unless they got something in return only to be faced with 26 countries backing the proposals that would (or will) leave the U.K. even more vulnerable to economic pressures. Germany and France are the leading forces in Europe and the other countries apart from the U.K. trust those two to get them back on an even keel. I await Cameron’s report back to the Commons with interest as I fear he will be castigated by some of his own party, the Lib Dems and Labour for not being able to deliver on his pledges. The coalition is teetering on the brink of imploding.
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Replying to john daly.
Must admit I am in accord with most of what Nigel Farage says regarding Europe.
Replying to Steven greenwood,
I admit Cameron was in a hard place, and the summit was about the Euro, but he quite rightly, in my opinion, refused to sign a new treaty tying us to closer political integration, the Germans and the French, again in my opinion, are using the Euro disaster to frighten the other governments into signing away their national existence,
Cleggy stated that he wanted Britain to be a leading light in the European experience, the buffoon has not yet realised that Britain today is no longer a big player in world politics, we are small fry in a big pond. Europe sells more to us than we export to them, we depend on them for approx 40% of our exports. Allow Sarkozy and Merkel to dictate all the terms, and we shall finish up as a satellite state of Europe, with no more influence than Greece.
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"The first poll conducted since the acrimonious Brussels summit shows that a total of 62 per cent of people agreed with the Prime Minister’s defiant stance, with just 19 per cent against. Furthermore, most people believe the euro is doomed to fail and almost half think the EU will break up. They also fear the summit has given too much power to Germany".
I read a lot Steve, and what I read is that there is little evidence that Brussels is capable of running a bath let alone becoming the "Government of Europe". It’s surely a joke to think that Brussels, which is incapable of setting and controlling its own budget, wants the power to set every other countries’.
If you locked the Merkel’s and Sarkozy’s of this world into a room for six months they’d kill each other before they agreed on anything, yet these are the very same people that want financial control of the full EU membership? It is very evident from where I sit that the general mood in Britain is for less control over their lives from Europe, not more! So maybe, for once you have a British PM who has stood up and said loud and clear that enough is enough?
The UK isn’t in the Euro...a wise move on someone’s part... so the UK is not completely isolated and remains an open economy plugged into the global network. That makes the UK as isolated as someone left on the dock in Southampton as the Titanic sailed away.’
