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I think that I should make my position clear, I most surely do not subscribe to the big brother must dictate how we live our lives.
I subscribe to the school of responsibility, where every person is responsible for their actions.
There should be;
No restriction on cigarette sales.
No restriction on alcohol sales.
No restriction on drugs.
Any person requiring medical treatment for any of the above, pays for it, if they cannot afford it tough! After all it is self inflicted, so why should services paid for by the community at large be used to repair them, they will only continue on their merry way, once healed.
Anyone committing offences whilst under the influence of either of the latter two, long prison sentences, and ensure that they undergo cold turkey treatment.
I could compile a long list of other remedies for this countries ills, but that will suffice, for now.
Never say a humorous thing to a man who does not possess humour. He will always use it in evidence against you.
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A quick comment to Scouse. A few posts back you said something about not hearing of accidents in motor vehicles caused by cigarettes. I think you should do your research on that, as even in this day of enlightenment and reduction in smoking, there are still statistics of car accidents caused by dropped cigarette ends and whole cigarettes while lit. Just the last week we, here in Queensland. had a driver sued for causing the death of another person by being distracted by a lit cigerette in his lap. I have lost friends in car accidents, because they were distracted by the wonderful nicotine drugg while driving. I used to smoke heavily, now given up for 15 years. Think of the injuries and fires started in drought by the carelessly thrown lit cigerette butt.
Shut up Roly!!!!
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Ignoring the effects of smoking seems to me to be a somewhat specious argument, as is the comparison with the smell of whisky! Residual smoke, second-hand smoke, call it what you will, is still a killer, though I’ve yet to hear of anyone dying from smelling whisky on someone else’s breath, though if the guy doing the sniffing is a cop and you’re behind the wheel...
Reading this thread reminds me that I don’t actually know anyone who smokes! No one in our family has ever smoked, none of our kids ever smoked, nor any of their friends. There are no ash trays in this house, and perchance we ever have a vistor who smokes, I wouldn’t find one nor allow them to do so. No one smokes in my car but then....I don’t know anyone who does!
Taking your argument of personal rsponsibility Don, to its logical conclusion, would mean that anyone who knowingly takes a risk with their health eg smokers, dangerous sports participents, obese people etc, would all have to pay their own medical bills. Setting aside the tax that they pay, the question is, where would you draw the line?
I believe the argument here is about the Zealots in our society, constantly trying to dictate to us how we should live our lives, how we should think, what we should say, these are people, usually the Liberal Elite, eg Harriet Harman, who always think they know best. Hearing contantly all the propaganda they pour out, I honestly believe they now rank smoking, a worse crime than murder. Advice is one thing, draconian laws to force complience is another.
Listening to an eminant doctor on radio 5, on this subject, who specialised in lung desease, I was surprised to hear her say that banning smoking in cars would be a step too far, and could undo much of the good work, that she considers, has been done thus far, and no, she was not a smoker.