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Pamela Forbes
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Quoting: Terry Carey

Finally in respect of the sale of Northern Rock to Virgin who sold off our gold reserves at rock bottom prices?

TC.

Ooh! Please, Sir! Please, Sir! I know that one.

It was that strange Scottish chap from Kirkcaldy....... Gordon Brown.

Are search and rescue still out looking for him??

Give a man an inch.........and he thinks he’s a ruler.

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18/11/2011 21:50:37

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, naturally not that would mean you would have to drop your rose tinited glasses & see things as they really are, so I won’t hold my breath.

You’re going to choke yourself one day Scouse!

We’ve been down this track before, so I’ll keep it short and to the point.

Labour sent troops to war; they were ill-equipped: Labour only belatedly decided to fix the problems after huge publicity from the press and the generals, and the deaths of innocent servicemen. It has always been an axiom of British politics that the most serious thing any PM can do is to commit his country to war. Labour did it without a single backward glance and in the full knowledge that the troops were poorly equipped, particularly by Gordon Brown, who surely ranks alongside that fool Chamberlain as the worst British Prime Minister ever.

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18/11/2011 22:23:35

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Well Colin the two you mention are certainly among the worst but I still think that Blair outdoes them both put together.

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18/11/2011 23:35:45

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I am pretty sure that when the Labour administration sent our boys into Afghanistan, Charlie Clarke stated in parliament, that they would be there a short while and the probability of armed action was miniscule. the expression, I believe was, "not a shot will be fired"

Hence not enough helicopters or body armour. apparently our Gord had curtailed expenditure, something he had to quickly remedy, but not until our boys had suffered casualties.

It took months, and more lives lost before the shortfall was remedied.

Another cock-up by incompetent politicians.!!

How can you send troops into a hostile country under-equiped,

Downright criminal.
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Alright Don, You could be right, in fact it’s nearly as bad as cutting defence budgets, slashing the forces man power, scrapping the only ground attack aircraft, getting rid of the aircraftcarrier capability & cutting the heavy armour by two thirds when the countries engaged in a war...but no sane government would do that...would they?

A situation may be desperate but never serious

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19/11/2011 00:15:48

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Alright Terry, Let’s have a closer look at you answers;

"The rest of your post as usual attempts to pin the entire blame for the present situation on the Tories when we all know that Labour have had thirteen years during which time they improved nothing at all but spent money on election bribes and other ’worthwhile’ projects. IT systems which cost billions and never worked if you want an example."

Only thirteen year to try & repair eleven years of Thatchers selling off all our assests, alienating the population with brilliant ideas like the pole tax & cutting the armed forces & seven years of Major cutting back the armed forces & running the highest unemployment figures since the end of WW two. The two of them managed to have three UK only resessions. Thirteen years is not long enough to repair the damage done by these two criminals over their seventeen years in office.

"That Labour failed so manifestly to rectify what you claim was a disaster by the Tories simply points to their collective inadequacy as administrators.

I point out my first reply

"There raison d’etre has always been to bribe the electorate and now that some of these bribes have to be curtailed there is the predictable outcry and strike threats. That is a sensible measure isn’t it?"

I’m sorry to say me auld mate but that shows your lack of political understanding & a blind biggotry against Labour & the working class.

"Of course the Union Leaders are not going to feel the pinch but to hell with it - let’s kick the Tories."

Once again Terry that shows a lack of understanding of what is going on. When unions like the National Association of Head Teachers & the National Association of Schoolmasters & Union of Women Teachers who have never in their history even held ballots for industrial action are now coming out on strike on the thirtieth even you have got to admit that the government has got it wrong.

"As to giving money away Labour never cut the amount of overseas aid but from memory increased it year on year."

The billions Cameron has given away is on top of his increased overseas aid budget (the only budget to be increased). Just to give you a simple fact to ignore after Labour had cleared up the finanical mess left to them by the Tories the UK was running in profit until the Bankers nearly destroyed the world ecconomy with their greed.

"Finally in respect of the sale of Northern Rock to Virgin who sold off our gold reserves at rock bottom prices?"

Labour had to sell off the gold by international treaty, Cameron had to sell off Nothern Rock to repay Branson for his donation to the party. Did Brown sell at the wrong time? yes he did, Has Cameron sold off Northern rock at the wrong time? I’ll be interested to see your answer.

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