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Alan Bishop
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Alan, I live in Canada and seeing the abysmal state of the Armed Forces here was what prompted me to that line of thinking.
The Canadian Armed Forces (remember who liberated Holland) are grossly underfunded and very ill equipped. When one airplane is aloft, the other half of the air force is grounded.

Be nice to your children, they choose your retirement home.....
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Alan Derbyshire
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Alan,

I have often logged onto the website of the Grey and Simcoe Foresters, the affiliated regiment to the Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters (WFR).

I am sometimes left "bemused" by some of the comments on the site. If half of what I read is correct it does seem like the Canadian forces have some problems, underfunding being one of them.

Haven’t the military always been underfunded and asked to operate on a shoestring? When I wrote to Mr Hoon I made the point that it useless spending money on Surveillance Drones when there will be insufficient troops on the ground to react to the information provided. He actually agreed that "boots on the ground" are important. Why then reduce them? We are overstretched as it is.

If people remember some year ago part of the Infantry was "merged" into large regiments thus forming the following:-
Royal Regiment Of Fusiliers
Royal Green Jackets
Light Infantry
Royal Anglian Regiment
Queens Regiment

They all became know by the number of their battalion ie 1RRF etc, losing their antecedent names.
To the best of my knowledge all of these had 3 battalions, now they have 2. The 3rd battalion having disappeared!

Is this then also the plan for the "new" merged regiments? Get rid of the links with their Counties and it is easier to disband regiments. Also makes it easier to form part of a European Army if we are all numbered and not named.

I am beginning to get very cynical.



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Vic Upson
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I am very dismayed and heartfelt to read all the comments on the disbandment, amalgamation and loss of many British Army Regiments.  I served for 12 years a lot less than most 8 spent in the RAPC [now gone]. During those years I spent many happy times with a number of regiments and battalions. One of the best with 5 RTR, I was disbanded 7th Dec 1969.  Why should I a mere ‘Corps Attached” remember this.  It’s part of our history, being British, being English, being Scots.  But after WW1, did we keep all the battalions raised, no we didn’t need them.  Again after WW2 did we keep the Regiments, no we didn’t need them.

Now according to President [I’m God] Blair, we’re at peace. Oh sorry except for the odd terrorist and the odd country that doesn’t toe the line of the Blair/Bush coalition vision of the world.

Sorry I’m not a Blairite. the sooner this jumped up barrister [And they all rip us off anyway, barristers that is] is put in his place the better.  He is a public civil servant.

A little more ‘Public’

A little more ‘Civil’

A little more ‘Servant’

- Excuse me, as I step down from my soap box, I get carried away -

“If” we don’t need these units do it with dignity, but I feel we need them desperately. A recent report says that the forces are stretched to nearly breaking point.  There “unfortunately”  is a shortage of funds - Too much is being spent on the “Skivers Battalions” of  Asylum Seekers and Social Security, not to mention “The Outreach Workers & Managers & PC Brigade”

Who’s fault ?  MINE & YOUR’s, or those who don’t go to the election booth or stand in general & local elections to oust these pests

You can grumble all you may in this chat room but it’s “Boots on the ground” that count.

This country has a history of forgetting Tommy when the fighting is over.  Can we not change that ? ?
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Alan Derbyshire
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Vic,

I agree with your comments!

I mentioned in one of my letters to the "powers that be" the very point about the reduction of our forces following various conflicts. Yet here we go once again and with the requirement  for "boots on the ground" more pronounced than ever! Even Geoff Hoon agreed with me that "boots on the ground" are important!

Where is the logic in reducing Infantry Battalions when we are having to use personnel from Artillery units to carry out Infantry tasks in Iraq? (Memories of Northern Ireland spring to mind).

I agree that modernisation is often necessary but why also decimate the names of our Regiments. As I have said in previous entries it is not only the Infantry (You will guess that I am ex Infantry) that is affected by these changes. It is ALL our forces.

It would appear that we cannot alter the "Mergers" of the Infantry but we can at least try to save the names of our Regiments. That is why we of the Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters Regimental Association have mounted a petition to "SAVE THE NAME".

(A bit of promoting the cause now follows):-

We need ALL the support we can muster to make the necessary impact on our "Leaders" to save the name so if you wish to help log on to : -
www.wfr.org.uk and follow the link to the WFR Association, there you will find an online petition. Or you could contact me and I will send you a "paper version" along with a stamped addressed envelope for it’s return.

Well, we have been told it is now "The Listening Government"!
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Vic Upson
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Glad to see someone is trying to do something, but how about an email.

You send an email to 10 of your friends who will supoort your cause, each copied to Geof Hoon & Boy Blair

They then send emails to 10 of their friends, again each copied to Geof Hoon and boy blair

and so on and so on.

10,000 emails later perhaps they’ll get the message,
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