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Quoting: Colin Hall It is impossible to make retrospective judgments on who did what to whom 70 years ago. The one thing wrong with history is it is written by the winners, and British history as taught to me at school was largely a distortion of fact which skated over the atrocities committed in the name of Empire!
Men responded, in real time and often on wholly inadequate information, to the moral dilemmas posed daily by the conduct of war. We bombed the crap out of Dresden for no military reason, and we nuked Japan when the war was virtually over and Japan was beaten everywhere but in Japan which was a smoking ruin.
Apologies today for events of 60-70 years ago are pointless. So if you want a"meaningful" apology from Japan, I take it you’ll be nipping over to Dresden to do the same?
Had the Americans not dropped the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese would have continued the war. The war was not virtually over, indeed the worst of it was yet to come. Had the Allies landed on Japanese soil, every single man, woman and child would have fought to the death.
The reason that the Japanese surrendered after the bombs was to protect the sacred graves of their ancestors, not to save their own skins.
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Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons [I]
Alright Owen, No need to shout sunshine. .................................................................................. Reply...Emphasising mate, just stressing the point, just a little shout to attract your attention like. .................................................................................. In answer to you poorly posed question you will have to tell me what you deem as an atrocity. .................................................................................. Reply... No I wont, if you don’t know what an atrocity is, then look it up in one of your books....or Google, c,mon Scouse mate your letting the side down. .................................................................................. As you obviously don’t think that the murder rape & torture carried out in the thousands in Nanking or in Kenya in the hundreds worthy of the title, could it be that the perpetrators aren’t from the west? .................................................................................. Reply...Obviously you haven’t got a clue what I think .................................................................................. As for side tracking, you brought Kenya into the mix, where abouts in the Jap home islands is Kenya? Colin dragged in Acre is that just outside Tokio? & Dresden as everyone knows is on the eastern side of Honshu .................................................................................. Stop asking silly questions and buy an Atlas. [/I]
Alright Owen, I asked you to define your idea of what is an atrocity, it’s now clear that you have no idea but think it’s something done by those dirty rotten child raping British soldiers.
As for the rest of your post it shows that you can jump around like a spastic frog but don’t like it when you are pinned down.
I’m surprised to find out that you don’t think Kenya is in Japan, why did you drag it in to a debate on Japan, could it be just another excuse for you to have a crack & the UK & the west?
I will not answer any post you make on this thread unless it’s about Japan & the Japonese, so you can trot your black propaganda out to your hearts content. Fill yer boots.
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Dedicated to all those who lost their lives through Man’s inhumanity to Man, which knows no bounds of race, creed, or time. Any war must be categorized as an "atrocity" but the war that Hitler started brought a scale of atrocity never previously known. The statistics of World War II clearly qualify it, by far, as the most heinous atrocity in all recorded history. Within this period the world has enjoyed real peace for only 268 years.
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Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons
Alright Owen, I asked you to define your idea of what is an atrocity, it’s now clear that you have no idea but think it’s something done by those dirty rotten child raping British soldiers.
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The Japanese were bad bastards, no question about it, but they were not the only country to commit wartime atrocities. Many of the "Japanese" guards in prison camps were in fact Koreans, who were, if anything, more sadistic than the Japs.
I’m not defending what they, the Japanese did, but to suggest that they were the only ones who committed wartime atrocities is quite frankly ill-informed. It was a World War, and all sides were guilty of some questionable action.
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