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Forces Reunited - New Taranis combat aircraft thunders into view
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Quoting: Brian Davison
John I bet there was a john  crying about better weapons etc when  my great great Grand father died fighting in Afghanistan  in 1883. And no doubt there will be one in a hundred yrs time spouting the same ol thing.



  Brian,  I have read and reread your posts on this in an effort to understand just where you are coming from but I still find myself at a loss. You seem to be a master of short meaningless phrases.

 So far you haven’t answered any of the questions Scouse has put to you.

 Do you believe that we should not be not be making attempts to improve equipment within the Armed Forces?

Would you like to explain to my son,who has already served 3 tours in Afghanistan, why you think he doesn’t deserve the very best equipment possible both to carry out the mission he has been tasked with and for his and his fellow soldiers safety?

Give a man an inch.........and he thinks he’s a ruler.
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im an ex army wife are boys should get al he support they can getthey are risking there live for our country i bet ther whould like to be home come on help our boys with support im 100%prcent be hind them im mrs lock my husband served with the derrs 1960 to 1970
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Pamela I will answer John when he puts a question to me. I will do the same with you when you ask me in a polite sensible manner, instead of accusing me of things I have not said. But while I am here will put my point of view. Of course our front line troops deserve and need everyone’s support, up to date equipment in plentiful supply etc. What is not needed is a long distance killing machine that is really only intended for wiping out entire populations. It is not a weapon a soldier will carry into battle to defend himself. I remember the unmanned machines Hitler sent over England in ww11 - Doodle bugs - V1 -V2 - they done nothing but kill and maim civilians, we were bombed out of our home three times in different parts of London. So please don’t ask me to explain to your son about anything as I don’t feel I have a need to. Rather I would like some one to explain to me for what and why are our forces in Afghanistan. (If not only to appease the USA) We went to war in 1939 with Germany because he invaded another country Poland. That’s why the UN was set up to prevent one country invading another. For the record I have two grandsons in the Royal Marines 3Cmd who have also toured that God forsaken land and even they don’t really know what they were are doing there. Now that wasn’t a short meaningless phrase was it? .
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When Project Taranis was started in 2007 the Ministry of Defence’s ’Suave Team’ - Strategic Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Experiment’ stated at the time..............

’Operational analysis and technological evidence is currently too immature to categorically confirm that the capabilities offered by a flying robot will fulfil requirements. Evidence will be gathered for a decision around 2011 on the future force mix of manned and unmanned air vehicles in the 2018 to 2025 timeframe and beyond.’

So, if in 2011 the MOD decide to go ahead and produce these wonder machines they would not be in use until much later and surely we hope all our troops will be home from Afghanistan by then.

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Quoting: Brian Davison
Pamela I will answer John when he puts a question to me. I will do the same with you when you ask me in a polite sensible manner, instead of accusing me of things I have not said.

But while I am here will put my point of view.

Of course our front line troops deserve and need everyone’s support, up to date equipment in plentiful supply etc. What is not needed is a long distance killing machine that is really only intended for wiping out entire populations. It is not a weapon a soldier will carry into battle to defend himself. I remember the unmanned machines Hitler sent over England in ww11 - Doodle bugs - V1 -V2 - they done nothing but kill and maim civilians, we were bombed out of our home three times in different parts of London.

So please don’t ask me to explain to your son about anything as I don’t feel I have a need to. Rather I would like some one to explain to me for what and why are our forces in Afghanistan. (If not only to appease the USA)

We went to war in 1939 with Germany because he invaded another country Poland. That’s why the UN was set up to prevent one country invading another.

For the record I have two grandsons in the Royal Marines 3Cmd who have also toured that God forsaken land and even they don’t really know what they were are doing there.

Now that wasn’t a short meaningless phrase was it?
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Alright Brian, Comparing the Project Taranis with the Fieseler Fi 103 (Vergeltungswaffen 1) is like comparing a wooden club to an assult rifle. You may not have noticed but targeting & control have improved over the last 65 years.

  Your reasons for Britain declaring war in 1939 is rather simplistic, it had more to do with continental trade than the invasion of Poland, other wise if it was just territorial why didn’t we declare war on the USSR who also invaded Poland? It also seems to have escaped your attention that the UN authorised the Afghan war in 1991, all the troops fighting out there do so under UN mandate 1386 which is updated yearly.

  I find it strange that your two grandsons don’t know what they are fighting for, my Nephew who is currently serving with the RN (FAA) has served out there & not only was he fully briefed on the situation but agrees with the war aims.

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